Tsotso - Revision history

Jawad at 14:45, 29 January 2026

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	:::Pre-Corachol-Nahua ''*tsohi''		:::Pre-Corachol-Nahua ''*tsohi''
	::::PSUA ''*[[sopitsi\|sopi]]''		::::PSUA ''*[[sopitsi\|sopi]]''

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Magnus at 13:14, 25 April 2025

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	:Huasteca Nahuan: ''tsotso''		:Huasteca Nahuan: ''tsotso''
	::Proto-Nahuatl ''*~~tsotso~~''		::Proto-Nahuatl ''*tso''
	::Pre-Nahuan ''*[[tsoi]]''		::Pre-Nahuan ''*[[tsoi]]''
	:::Pre-Corachol-Nahua ''*tsohi''		:::Pre-Corachol-Nahua ''*tsohi''

Magnus at 13:13, 25 April 2025

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	'''[[Bat\|Etymology]]''': It is derived by reduplication from Pre-Nahua [[tsoi]], which in turn comes from PSUA [[sopitsi\|sopi(tsi)]] "bat" (or "butterfly").		'''[[Bat\|Etymology]]''': It is derived by reduplication from Pre-Nahua [[tsoi]], which in turn comes from PSUA [[sopitsi\|sopi(tsi)]] "bat" (or "butterfly").

	Given that this form is restricted to the Huasteca region, where many loans from Téenek (Huastec Maya) are found, one might suspect influence from Mayan, and the form looks similar to the well-known Mayan root ''/so:ts/''' "bat", however in Téenek this word is ''<thut<nowiki>'</nowiki>>'' /''θut<nowiki>'</nowiki>''/, as Téenek has lost the sibilant part of both proto-Mayan /s/ and /ts'/. This suggests that Huastec influence on this form is unlikely, or at least it would have had to be prior to the s > θ change taking place in Huastecan (this change is not found in Chicomuceltec and so must have happened after Téenek split from Chicomuceltec). In any case, it would require Huasteca Nahuan having loaned ''sots''' as ''tsotso'', changing the initial consonant to match the second, and adding a final vowel - neither of which would be expected. Consequently, the explanation of this form being inherited from pre-Nahua tsoi is much to be preferred.		Given that this form is restricted to the Huasteca region, where many loans from Téenek (Huastec Maya) are found, one might suspect influence from Mayan, and the form looks similar to the well-known Mayan root ''/so:ts'/'' "bat", however in Téenek this word is ''<thut<nowiki>'</nowiki>>'' /''θut<nowiki>'</nowiki>''/, as Téenek has lost the sibilant part of both proto-Mayan /s/ and /ts'/. This suggests that Huastec influence on this form is unlikely, or at least it would have had to be prior to the s > θ change taking place in Huastecan (this change is not found in Chicomuceltec and so must have happened after Téenek split from Chicomuceltec). In any case, it would require Huasteca Nahuan having loaned ''sots''' as ''tsotso'', changing the initial consonant to match the second, and adding a final vowel - neither of which would be expected. Consequently, the explanation of this form being inherited from pre-Nahua tsoi is much to be preferred.

	:Huasteca Nahuan: ''tsotso''		:Huasteca Nahuan: ''tsotso''

Magnus at 13:13, 25 April 2025

2025-04-25T13:13:10Z

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	'''[[Bat\|Etymology]]''': It is derived by reduplication from Pre-Nahua [[tsoi]], which in turn comes from PSUA [[sopitsi\|sopi(tsi)]] "bat" (or "butterfly").		'''[[Bat\|Etymology]]''': It is derived by reduplication from Pre-Nahua [[tsoi]], which in turn comes from PSUA [[sopitsi\|sopi(tsi)]] "bat" (or "butterfly").

	Given that this form is restricted to the Huasteca region, where many loans from Téenek (Huastec Maya) are found, one might suspect influence from Mayan, and the form looks similar to the well-known Mayan root ''/so:ts/''' "bat", however in Téenek this word is ''<thut'>'' /''θut''/, as Téenek has lost the sibilant part of both proto-Mayan /s/ and /ts'/. This suggests that Huastec influence on this form is unlikely, or at least it would have had to be prior to the s > θ change taking place in Huastecan (this change is not found in Chicomuceltec and so must have happened after Téenek split from Chicomuceltec). In any case, it would require Huasteca Nahuan having loaned ''sots''' as ''tsotso'', changing the initial consonant to match the second, and adding a final vowel - neither of which would be expected. Consequently, the explanation of this form being inherited from pre-Nahua tsoi is much to be preferred.		Given that this form is restricted to the Huasteca region, where many loans from Téenek (Huastec Maya) are found, one might suspect influence from Mayan, and the form looks similar to the well-known Mayan root ''/so:ts/''' "bat", however in Téenek this word is ''<thut<nowiki>'</nowiki>>'' /''θut<nowiki>'</nowiki>''/, as Téenek has lost the sibilant part of both proto-Mayan /s/ and /ts'/. This suggests that Huastec influence on this form is unlikely, or at least it would have had to be prior to the s > θ change taking place in Huastecan (this change is not found in Chicomuceltec and so must have happened after Téenek split from Chicomuceltec). In any case, it would require Huasteca Nahuan having loaned ''sots''' as ''tsotso'', changing the initial consonant to match the second, and adding a final vowel - neither of which would be expected. Consequently, the explanation of this form being inherited from pre-Nahua tsoi is much to be preferred.

	:Huasteca Nahuan: ''tsotso''		:Huasteca Nahuan: ''tsotso''

Magnus at 13:12, 25 April 2025

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	:''/[[tsina:ka]]/''		:''/[[tsina:ka]]/''

	'''[[Bat\|Etymology]]''': It is derived by reduplication from Pre-Nahua [[tsoi]], which in turn comes from PSUA [[sopitsi\|sopi(tsi)]] "bat" (or "butterfly"). Given that this form is restricted to the Huasteca region, where many loans from Téenek (Huastec Maya) are found, one might suspect influence from Mayan, and the form looks similar to the well-known Mayan root ''~~sots~~'' "bat", however in Téenek this word is <thut'> ''~~θu:t~~'', as Téenek has lost the sibilant part of both proto-Mayan /s/ and /ts'/. This suggests that Huastec influence on this form is unlikely, or at least it would have had to be prior to the *s > θ change taking place in Huastecan (this change is not found in Chicomuceltec and so must have happened after Téenek split from Chicomuceltec).		'''[[Bat\|Etymology]]''': It is derived by reduplication from Pre-Nahua [[tsoi]], which in turn comes from PSUA [[sopitsi\|sopi(tsi)]] "bat" (or "butterfly").

			Given that this form is restricted to the Huasteca region, where many loans from Téenek (Huastec Maya) are found, one might suspect influence from Mayan, and the form looks similar to the well-known Mayan root ''/so:ts/''' "bat", however in Téenek this word is ''<thut'>'' /''θut''/, as Téenek has lost the sibilant part of both proto-Mayan /s/ and /ts'/. This suggests that Huastec influence on this form is unlikely, or at least it would have had to be prior to the s > θ change taking place in Huastecan (this change is not found in Chicomuceltec and so must have happened after Téenek split from Chicomuceltec). In any case, it would require Huasteca Nahuan having loaned ''sots''' as ''tsotso'', changing the initial consonant to match the second, and adding a final vowel - neither of which would be expected. Consequently, the explanation of this form being inherited from pre-Nahua tsoi is much to be preferred.

	:Huasteca Nahuan: ''tsotso''		:Huasteca Nahuan: ''tsotso''

Magnus at 13:06, 25 April 2025

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	:''/[[tsina:ka]]/''		:''/[[tsina:ka]]/''

	'''[[Bat\|Etymology]]''': It is derived by reduplication from Pre-Nahua [[tsoi]], which in turn comes from PSUA [[sopitsi\|sopi(tsi)]] "bat" (or "butterfly").		'''[[Bat\|Etymology]]''': It is derived by reduplication from Pre-Nahua [[tsoi]], which in turn comes from PSUA [[sopitsi\|sopi(tsi)]] "bat" (or "butterfly"). Given that this form is restricted to the Huasteca region, where many loans from Téenek (Huastec Maya) are found, one might suspect influence from Mayan, and the form looks similar to the well-known Mayan root ''sots'' "bat", however in Téenek this word is <thut'> ''θu:t'', as Téenek has lost the sibilant part of both proto-Mayan /s/ and /ts'/. This suggests that Huastec influence on this form is unlikely, or at least it would have had to be prior to the *s > θ change taking place in Huastecan (this change is not found in Chicomuceltec and so must have happened after Téenek split from Chicomuceltec).

	:Huasteca Nahuan: ''tsotso''		:Huasteca Nahuan: ''tsotso''

Magnus at 12:43, 25 April 2025

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	'''Variant forms''':		'''Variant forms''':
	:''/tsutsu/'', ''/tsoʔtso/''		:''/tsutsu/'', ''/tsoʔtso/'' (Lastra 1986)
	:''/[[tsona:ka]]/''		:''/[[tsona:ka]]/''
	:''/[[tsina:ka]]/''		:''/[[tsina:ka]]/''

Magnus at 12:43, 25 April 2025

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	'''Variant forms''':		'''Variant forms''':
	:''[[tsona:ka]]''		:''/tsutsu/'', ''/tsoʔtso/''
	:''[[tsina:ka]]''		:''/[[tsona:ka]]/''
			:''/[[tsina:ka]]/''

	'''[[Bat\|Etymology]]''': It is derived by reduplication from Pre-Nahua [[tsoi]], which in turn comes from PSUA [[sopitsi\|sopi(tsi)]] "bat" (or "butterfly").		'''[[Bat\|Etymology]]''': It is derived by reduplication from Pre-Nahua [[tsoi]], which in turn comes from PSUA [[sopitsi\|sopi(tsi)]] "bat" (or "butterfly").

Magnus: Created page with "'''/tsotso/''' "bat" in Nahuan languages of the Huasteca area. '''Attestations''': Attested by Lastra (1986) in 14 varieties in San Luis Potosí, Hidalgo, Northern Veracruz and Northern Puebla. '''Variant forms''': :''tsona:ka'' :''tsina:ka'' '''Etymology''': It is derived by reduplication from Pre-Nahua tsoi, which in turn comes from PSUA sopi(tsi) "bat" (or "butterfly"). :Huasteca Nahuan: ''tsotso'' ::Proto-Nahuatl ''*tsotso''..."

2025-04-25T12:41:56Z

Created page with "'''/tsotso/''' "bat" in Nahuan languages of the Huasteca area. '''Attestations''': Attested by Lastra (1986) in 14 varieties in San Luis Potosí, Hidalgo, Northern Veracruz and Northern Puebla. '''Variant forms''': :''tsona:ka'' :''tsina:ka'' '''Etymology''': It is derived by reduplication from Pre-Nahua *tsoi, which in turn comes from PSUA *sopi(tsi) "bat" (or "butterfly"). :Huasteca Nahuan: ''tsotso'' ::Proto-Nahuatl ''*tsotso''..."

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'''/tsotso/''' "bat" in Nahuan languages of the Huasteca area.

'''Attestations''': Attested by Lastra (1986) in 14 varieties in San Luis Potosí, Hidalgo, Northern Veracruz and Northern Puebla.

'''Variant forms''':
:''[[tsona:ka]]''
:''[[tsina:ka]]''

'''[[Bat|Etymology]]''': It is derived by reduplication from Pre-Nahua *[[tsoi]], which in turn comes from PSUA *[[sopitsi|sopi(tsi)]] "bat" (or "butterfly").

:Huasteca Nahuan: ''tsotso''
::Proto-Nahuatl ''*tsotso''
::Pre-Nahuan ''*[[tsoi]]''
:::Pre-Corachol-Nahua ''*tsohi''
::::PSUA ''*[[sopitsi|sopi]]''

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